Posted by: ariedan | April 11, 2009

10 Things To Make Your Raid Leader Love You!

Before I post, I’d really like to thank everyone for all of their positive feedback and comments. I went to work excited over reaching 400 hits as a week-old blog, and came home with that number increased to 4k with a plethora of comments, congratulatory e-mails, and tweets on the side. The biggest thanks go to WoW Insider for getting my name out there, but you guys linking me on your guild forums means a lot.

I got a lot of feedback on 10 Ways To Make Your GM Love You, so I figured I would do one in a similar style, but one that focuses on raiding and the things that people do nightly in raids exasperate me.

1. If you want to raid, be reliable.

That sounds like a simple enough expectation, but something people just must not realize. It kills me every time I have a member who no-shows a raid without posting, and then expects a raid invite the next day. Before you decide to join a raiding guild, take the time to ask yourself if you can commit to their schedule. Are the raid times okay, or do you expect any conflicts (work, kids, school)? Can you show up at least 15 minutes before the raid begins? Raiding is a team effort, and internet video game or not, if you don’t think you owe your guild any commitment, then they don’t owe you a raiding spot or loot.

2. It’s not your job to call things.

Do not ever call out instructions unless you are a raid leader, tank, someone who plays a vital role, or otherwise someone the raid leader appointed. It is not your job to decide battle rezzes or heroism/blood lust, when to run out, and to call out things like fight mechanics. All of your opinions are valuable, but understand when many people try to take charge, things get disorganized and confusing. Suggestions and advice, however, are okay.

3. Don’t complain about stupid stuff like dying.

If you’re wiping on a boss, there are probably two reasons: it’s hard and you’re making progression, or people are making the same mistakes over and over again. Either way, complaining isn’t necessary or tolerated. If you’re consistently dying to something stupid, and you have something constructive to say that will help out, then go ahead! But you’re not helping things if you just contribute to the negativity.

4. Don’t complain about loot!

Seriously! They’re internet pixels, and if they’re the sole reason you raid, I feel sorry for your guild. If you don’t get a piece of loot you really wanted, you should be happy for the guildie that got it, and that it’s gone to making the guild as a whole that little bit stronger. If you’re unhappy because you feel loot was mishandled, take a minute to cool down some. Ask yourself, How much loot have I gotten in comparison to this person? Does he/she make more raids than me? Is it more of an upgrade for him/her? Does he/she contribute more to the raid? In my experience, being upset over something as silly as loot doesn’t make you a horrible person. But before you explode in anger, please try to look at things from different perspectives. Also consider the fact that deciding loot isn’t a simple as a two-minute point-and-click decision; there are a lot of factors in deciding loot, and you shouldn’t be so hasty to judge when you can’t see behind the scenes. If you still feel like you’ve been wronged, wait until after the raid to approach an officer in private. Watch how you word things, as attacking an officer over loot will not help matters any. Calmly explain what happened and why you think it was wrong. Officers can’t do anything to give you that loot even if you were right, but maybe maturely discussing things will put you at ease.

5. If you have something important to say during a fight, don’t type it.

If you’re calling out things that are important to the fight, say it on vent. My chat is the last thing on my screen I look at while raiding, and even if I even glanced over at it, it would be lost in DBM and FailBot (haha) spam. For the few who just can’t talk, I understand. But you wouldn’t believe the sheer amount of raiders who will get chatty on vent after raids, but refuse to say a single thing during raids.

6. Don’t call people out.

It’s not your job to call out Player X who died to a flame wall yet again. Don’t yell or insult them, don’t point it out, don’t say anything out loud. You’re not the raid leader, got it? Privately talking to the raid leader about it is fine, but chances are, your raid leader is very aware Player X dies to stupid things all the time, and probably doesn’t want to be reminded. Why? If you’re wiping because people doing stupid things, your raid will probably have a lot of tension and a very negative morale. When you call someone out, you chance rubbing people already on edge, and starting a fire.

7. Watch your afk’s!

Hopefully I’m stating the obvious here, but don’t take prolonged afk’s. Bathroom and water breaks are generally okay so long as it’s not long or during a boss, but don’t take a 15 minute afk every night to tuck your kids into bed and have a smoke break. Exceptions to this rule will happen (“My house is on fire!”), but if it’s a habit, your raid leader is going be very frustrated with you.

8. Do your research on new content.

Research all of the boss fights. Bosskillers, WowWiki, Tankspot, and Elitist Jerks are four reputable sites you can use. Ask experienced friends, read forums, watch videos, and understand your roles in these fights. If you have any questions, it’s better to swallow your pride and ask before you cause a wipe.

9. Use WWS/WMO wisely.

If your guild uses WWS/WMO (and if they don’t, try to get them to!), it’s the most valuable tool to you as a raider. So use it! Be proactive. Use it to learn to be a better player, and to avoid making similar mistakes in future raids. There is always room for improvement, and if you think there’s nothing left for you to learn, you might wanna check again.

10. If you’re going to cyber with the officers for loot, do it in whispers.

Well, just joking, but on a more serious note, watch the amount of whispers you send to your raid leaders/officers. They’re probably very busy and have several other people whispering things. If we don’t respond, it’s not because we’re ignoring you, it’s probably because we’re busy handling other things. Don’t be offended!



  1. Uh oh… ๐Ÿ˜› I guess I need to alter my raiding habits a bit. I’ll try to work on 5, 8, and 10. Thanks for this checklist!

  2. You seem to have become Wordy 10 things Warrior!: ๐Ÿ˜€ Keep up the good work, nice post!

  3. 5 is touchy, as if vent is being used for other important information, typing it can be a good way to get that information to someone who SHOULD be talking in vent, going back to 2.

    • Which is why I worded it to say “if you have something important to say” instead of “if you have to say something.” If I ask someone how long he has on his battle rez (which wouldn’t happen because I have a mod to tell me that, but whatever!), I would want him to respond in vent.

      Maybe the raids in my guild are run differently, but people are allowed to talk on vent during raids, even during boss fights. But there’s a difference between someone relaying important information and a few people cracking a joke while the raid leader is trying to give instructions.

  4. All of which seems to boil down to one theme: Be Professional. It sounds like you’re saying that players should treat being in a guild like having a job. Is that a fair statement?

    • Yes and absolutely no. It’s hard to explain. Don’t compare it to a job, compare it to being on a sports team or perhaps a band/orchestra. It’s a hobby, and you have fun with it, but the other people in your team expect you to take things seriously when it comes time to perform.

  5. My favorite is when someone asks for a restroom break, then 2 minutes after we restart someone else asks for the same thing.

  6. “Officers canโ€™t do anything to give you that loot even if you were right”

    They can put in a ticket to explain that something was looted to the wrong person? We’ve done that before and the CMs sorted it out.

    • Not really. Making a decision to give someone loot and then realizing someone else was more qualified for it doesn’t really meet the terms GMs need to fix loot.

      • Works always if you just tell it was mistake/accident.

  7. Thanks for stopping by my little site! @Spinks I once won the roll for the headless horsemans mount but was rewarded to someone else I put in a ticket, and they said there was nothing they could do.

  8. […] have been impressive and varied. From the “10 things” lists including how to make your raid leader love you or being a good officer, how to get through a trial period with a new guild, and musings on why she […]

  9. Excuse me, this may sound dumb (but the dumb questions are those which are not asked!) – I don’t have a Lvl 80-char myself and thus have no experience in endgame content.

    –> What is WWS/WMO?
    Sure, these may be well-known abbreviations, but you could consider the newbies who stumble upon your blog, for they will be 80 someday and the better they are prepared, the better they will perform ๐Ÿ™‚

  10. WWS is Wow Web Stats:

    WMO is Wow Meter Online:

    They both give you a summary of everything that happened during a raid.

  11. Very nice list! Lord if my entire guild read this (and absorbed all the info) our raids would fly by so smoothly. Especially 1, 2 and 3 … our guild has the worst problems with those.

  12. Really like this list, currently have it linked in our forums as a guide on how to act in raids. Thanks for writing it up!

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